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The Brief But Destructive Wake of Praetorian Fighting Championships

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PRAETORIAN BEGINS

Martinez decided to start his promotion and chose the name Praetorian, seemingly based off the Brazilian MMA apparel company that was gaining popularity at that time, with fighters like Junior dos Santos and Big Nog wearing their shirts.

Martinez needed help to start Praetorian. He wisely looked to Rob Hinds and his Combat Consulting company. Hinds has worked as a referee or judge in over 5,000 fights. You’ve likely seen him at local shows, and you’ve seen him on your TV working UFC and Bellator events. He’s also a long-time martial artist, with an impressive resume that includes fighting, coaching and teaching, both here in the states and internationally.

So Martinez did well in choosing Hinds to get his promotion started on solid ground. Martinez contacted Hinds months in advance of his first show, and wanted to book Hinds as his referee and as a consultant. This was all done by email. Hinds said Martinez was effusive about doing ‘the right thing’ because he felt no other promoter in Illinois was doing that. Hinds had heard that line from promoters before, so he reserved a bit of skepticism. Still, he decided to work with Martinez, but only with a few guarantees.

Rob Hinds“I consulted with him at no charge, as he had guaranteed me that he would take my advice and use me as his head referee. I fed him all the correct information, made many recommendations for good service (sanctioning body, officials, etc.) and saved him a lot of effort and time in seeking these things out himself,” Hinds told Chicago’s MMA.

Martinez booked Hinds for the event, then never heard from him again. This was not atypical according to Hinds, as once he is booked he just shows up to work as scheduled. But shortly before the first Praetorian event, Hinds got word that Martinez changed the venue, sanctioning body and cage provider. Still, Hinds knew where to go to work the event, and he did just that, arriving at the venue early prepared to do his job. He saw Martinez, but Hinds said it seemed like he did not want to talk to him.

“He finally approached me and asked to speak with me. We went into a secluded hallway with one of his “security” guys. He proceeded to tell me that he didn’t need my services and that the sanctioning body that he originally hired should have told me about the cancellation. I reminded him that this was HIS responsibility, as HE was the person who contracted me, not the sanctioning body, ” Hinds said.

“I still agreed to work the event as scheduled. Alex was firm that the new sanctioning body had provided officials for the event and that I should leave the venue. He offered to pay for my service throughout the conversation. After realizing that he wasn’t going to use my services, I opted to take payment and go home. It’s not the way I’m used to doing business, but this was a situation where taking his offer gave him a little lesson in poor business practices. I had also turned down other (bigger) opportunities on that date to keep my word.”

The conversation got a bit animated, and that’s certainly uncharacteristic for Hinds. A very well-respected coach that had fighters on that card noticed the conversation between the two had heated up, so he went over to see what was up. The coach told me that he went over to greet Hinds, and give him a pat on the back. As he did that, Martinez told the coach something to the effect of ‘Can’t you see we’re trying to have a conversation here?’ That coach told me that Martinez is lucky that he didn’t dust him right there.

So before there the first-ever Praetorian event even started, Martinez had managed to disrespect two of the most revered people in the Chicago MMA community. And he wasn’t done yet with Hinds.

“I left and forgot about the event. A day or two later, Alex sends me an email telling me that I scammed him out of money and what I crook I was. He threatened to soil my good name by telling everyone that would listen ‘what I did to him.’ Stunned, I replied back with all the past emails and facts of our transaction, along with a message from my attorney on the repercussions of wrongfully defacing my name. I never heard from him again.”

NO MONEY, MORE PROBLEMS

At least Hinds got paid. The majority of complaints I’ve been receiving about Martinez is that he has not paid for services rendered. Most describe the process of dealing with him like this: Martinez offers up various excuses for why he hasn’t sent payment. He then makes promises to pay that go unfulfilled. Finally, he falls off the grid and those in search of their money are left frustrated, unable to contact him.

Some have gone into great detail to describe how Martinez has shirked the responsibility of paying his bills. Others have told me they have a legitimate contention, but they’d rather just leave their name out of this piece.  They don’t care to revisit what was an aggravating — and costly — experience for them.

Some want to talk about their business dealings with Martinez, but they can’t at this time. One example of this would be Murcielago MMA.

Troy Lamson vs. Angelo Rivera Jr. at Praetorian 2.5

Murcielago MMA’s Troy Lamson vs. Angelo Rivera Jr. at Praetorian 2.5

Murcielago MMA is a fight team from Michigan, and they had a few fighters on the Praetorian 2.5 card. One of their fighters fought in the main event, Michigan State University wrestler Troy Lamson. It was a slick move by Martinez, basically bringing in the best welterweight in Michigan to fight Combat Do’s Angelo Rivera Jr., arguably the best amateur welterweight in Illinois.

Lamson won a unanimous decision over Rivera Jr., and said he would be back after his MSU wrestling career ended in 2014 to defend his Praetorian title. That’s obviously not going to happen since Martinez declared he was done promoting amateur events. But even if Praetorian was still putting on ammy shows, no fighter from Murcielago MMA, Lamson included, would be fighting on the card.

Other sources have told me that Martinez still owes Murcielago money. All they would say on the record is this: “I will consult with my attorneys prior to making or sharing information regarding our experience with Alex Martinez and his promotion.”

Lamson will get to hang on to his Praetorian welterweight champion belt. The only problem with that is Martinez still hasn’t paid for it.

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About Matt Lo Cascio

Matt Lo Cascio is a former TV producer who turned to new media in 2005, and he is the co-founder and editor of Chicago's MMA. He is also the play-by-play announcer for the XFO. His work has been published by ESPN.com, DraftKings, The Comeback, FanSided and more.

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7 Comments

  1. Alex Talavera

    Nov 12, 2013 at 6:15 pm

    Can somebody contact me about this. Alex owes me money also and I have plenty of proof of his shady acts.

  2. Tom Barnes

    Nov 13, 2013 at 9:49 am

    Add my name to the list …Months before the first show , Martinez walked up to me at a XFO show and said we had worked together at the old Mayhem Promotions shows and that he’s starting a MMA Promotions Company and would love to have my services at his events. So I did the first weigh-in and fight night ….It will probably come as a shock but I was never paid …never did another one of his shows …

  3. Anonymous

    Nov 21, 2013 at 2:51 pm

    He owes me money too! Shady shady person- NO ONE DO BUSINESS WITH ALEX MARTINEZ!

  4. P Diddy

    Feb 4, 2014 at 9:53 am

    If you think he screwed over MMA fighters, you should see how badly he f***** over teammates with the Chicago Bulldogs and the leagues his teams played for.

  5. Steve

    Mar 24, 2014 at 2:51 pm

    If we’re talking about hurting the sport of mma, why doesn’t somebody do a piece on the corruption that is accompanied with the regulations? I first hand have seen certain shows be able to get away with actions that other shows in the same state cannot. Seems to me that these “safety” regulations are just another way to monopolize and play favorites.

  6. IF U ONLY KNEW

    May 26, 2014 at 8:58 am

    ALEX MARTINEZ IS A FRAUD, CON ARTIST, MANIPULATOR, SOCIOPATH LIAR!!! HE TAKES ADVANTAGE OF PEOPLE TO BENIFIT HIMSELF IN ANY AND EVERY POSSIBLE WAY… HE IS A MONSTER AND NEEDS TO BE HELD ACCOUNTED FOR ALL HIS DIRT. I KNOW THIS BECAUSE HE DID IT TOO ME AND TRUST ME I HAVE PROOF OF ALL HIS DIRTY LIES. HE OWES ME MONEY TOO. THE MAN MARRIED TWICE WITHOUT GETTING A DIVORCE TO HIS FIRST MARRIAGE THIS IS JUST SAD HOW THIS MAN CAN GO AROUND HURTING PEOPLE LIVES AND GETS AWAY WITH IT. THAT HOCKEY TEAM HE LIKES TO CLAIM SO MANY GUYS HAVE BEEN THRU HIS SCAM HE TAKES THERE MONEY AND DOESNT DELIVER. THE MAN CANT SKATE YEA HE IS A 5FT GOALIE FOR THE TEAM BUT PUT HIM ON THE ICE FOR A GAME YOU WILL HAVE THE BEST LAUGH OF YOUR LIFE.

  7. Carlos

    Jun 9, 2014 at 6:11 pm

    He sucks as a promoter, fighter, goalie, etc. Hope there is an update soon about the lawsuit – he needs to get slammed hard!

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